John Kaster

Behind the Screen

Looking for the silver lining

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We’re finally at the point where we’re gathering the requirements and wishes for our tagging system for CDN. So, I’m looking at the current tagging system and tag clouds out there to see what I like and don’t like, which things are essential, which things are optional, and which we shouldn’t do.

What tagging system(s) do you like? What tag cloud(s) do you like? We’ll start working on tagging support soon, so if you use the Developer Network, Support site, CodeCentral or QualityCentral at all, I’d love to hear from you about what you like and don’t like with the tagging systems you might be using on other web sites.

Thanks very much for your opinions and suggestions!

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Written by John Kaster

January 2, 2008 at 9:57 pm

Posted in Delphi, EDN, IT Industry, Java, PHP, Ruby

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  1. Before you start defining tag support, I think that the javascript errors in the QC webpage should be cleaned up. That means the errors you get on the page when loading and scrolling the QC webpage.

    Also the heading menu bug with undermenu -> demonstration:

    Hover “Developer Network” to get the dropdown menu. Hover “Resources” to get the undermenu. Hover “Audio” then move cursor outside the menu on the right to have the menu disappear. Hover “Developer Network” again, and you should see the undermenu visible with no items.

    Atle Smelvaer

    January 3, 2008 at 12:34 am

  2. What’s a tagging system, and why do you – or we – need it?

    Roddy

    January 3, 2008 at 3:36 am

  3. I find “tag clouds” useless, for the most part.

    Flickr’s “non-cloudy” “show me the most popular tags, with the option of seeing them all” is somewhat useful.

    Mostly I use tags in a search context — show me all items with this tag.

    For a tagging system, KISS. Just a list of words, with no heirarchy. Although I see no reason to disallow spaces, as some systems do.

    Craig Stuntz

    January 3, 2008 at 5:48 am

  4. Atle, the other issues are already being worked on. We develop features in parallel.

    Roddy, tagging systems allow users of a site to set up their own categorizations for the content by assigning their own keywords or phrases.

    Craig, thanks for the response. I was hoping to see something from you. Agree on the non-cluttered tag cloud solution, and I was already thinking of a “most common tags” view that could be expanded to “all tags”. Also thinking of an easy checklist for tagging, and easy dialog for adding another standardized tag, or creating a new tag. Definitely don’t want it to be overly complex.

    John Kaster

    January 3, 2008 at 10:36 am

  5. I completely agree with Craig Stuntz.

    I find “tag clouds” useless as well. To me they’re kind of a neat trendy piece of eye candy to put on a blog or something, but I’ve never been able to use them to get any kind of additional information about anything. I like Flickr’s system of displaying tags as well. I’d rather see an ordered list (or just have tag searching return good relevant results — no need to see the tags at all) than an ugly collection of inconsistent font sizes.

    KISS is simple and functional. I’m not a big fan of needless complexity with dubious benefits.

    Jason Cipriani

    February 18, 2008 at 1:54 am

  6. Jason, thanks for your feedback. I definitely dislike clutter as well and want to implement something truly useful. There are some really handy things we can do with tagging, particularly in conjunction with our search engine. So we will pursue it, but we’ll try to not go overboard 😉

    John Kaster

    February 18, 2008 at 1:26 pm


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